OK - time for a complete change of plan!  Gypsy doesn't like her crate 
at all, she settles at night when tired but after that she shouts 
whenever she wakes.  So we are trying a puppy pen then I will be able to
 ignore her shouts as she can wee at one end if she HAS to (I'll try a 
puppy pad and hope she doesn't shred it!)


 
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